Both the men and women's basketball teams are officially done for the season. The men lost an Overtime thriller to South Carolina the other night, and the women lost to Stanford. Of course, the women at least made it to the NCAA tournament, whereas the men only made it to the NIT tournament, but that is another issue. Either way, it is now time to focus all that Seminole pride into our baseball team, which is currently ranked #1 in 3 out of 4 baseball polls. Maybe this is the year they can finally win the big one. For more information about the FSU baseball team, head on over to SectionB.com.
Well, I didn't think FSU was going to make the tourny after their loss to Wake, but I agree that some teams that did make it shouldn't have. Anyways, if you want to read what the Athletic Director of FSU had to say about it, read the link below.
Every year, FSU seems to play very well against Duke in basketball. I think they have won at least one of their two games like 4 of the last 5 years or something, but don't quote me on that. Well, this past weekend they almost did it again, but this time we can blame the refs. FSU lost 97-96 in Overtime. However, it probably wouldn't have gone to overtime if FSU didn't lose one of its players due to a horrible technical foul called on our player. The call was so misplaced that the referees of the game have been suspended by the ACC. Either way congrats to the FSU team for a good game.
ACC officials Suspended
Apparantely the stars were aligned this week b/c the number of close games this weekend featuring undefeated teams was phenomenal. Unfortunately, as most of my friends are none too shy to point out, FSU ended up on the losing side of one of these games. Here's a quick look at the games:
#6 Alabama 13 - Mississippi 10: Alabama kicks the game winning FG with no time left to remain undefeated.
#8 Penn State 25 - Michigan 27: Michigan throws the game winning TD on the last play of the game to give Penn State its first loss.
#1 USC 34 - #9 Notre Dame 31: USC dramatically scores with 1 second left to play to remain undefeated.
#12 UCLA 44 - Wash. St. 41: UCLA scores 17 points in the 4th quarter to send the game into Overtime, where they eventually won to remain undefeated.
#4 FSU 21 - UVA 26: I don't want to talk about it!
To top everything off, the Fins lost again on Sunday. Not a good weekend in the world of football.
This was by no means a game for the ages, despite the fact that FSU managed to get the Win. The offense was completely inept, and thanks to Miami's special teams being even more inept, FSU escaped with a much needed victory, despite the fact it is only the first game of the season. A loss here, and who knows what the rest of the season will bring with two red-shirt freshmen battling for the top QB spot. We didn't get to see much of Xavier Lee, but the one pass he did throw was about 15 yards in the opposite direction of the receiver, so that can't be a good sign. But in the end, the Defense was our saviour. Sure, they gave up a long 4th quarter drive when they originally had them pinned down at the 3 yard line, but results speak volumes, and the fact that Miami only scored 7 points shows how good this 'D' could be and/or already is. Either way, I'm ecstatic about the results, and no more having to listen to Hurricane fans talk trash, now all I will hear is "we should have won"...which may be true, but they've gotten enough breaks in the past to warrant this one not going there way. Miami's head coach Larry Coker summed it best with the following quote:
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) -- The NCAA will allow Florida State to use its Seminoles nickname in postseason play, removing the school from a list of colleges with Native American nicknames that were restricted by an NCAA decision earlier this month.
The NCAA said it was recognizing the relationship Florida State has long enjoyed with the Seminole Tribe of Florida, which assists the university with its pageantry and celebration of its culture and supports the school's use of its name.
``The staff review committee noted the unique relationship between the university and the Seminole Tribe of Florida as a significant factor,'' the NCAA said Tuesday. ``The decision of a namesake sovereign tribe, regarding when and how its name and imagery can be used, must be respected even when others may not agree.''
Florida State President T.K. Wetherell had threatened to sue the NCAA immediately after its Aug. 5 announcement that the school's highly visible nickname, ``Seminoles,'' was defined as ``hostile and abusive'' by a committee.
The NCAA said it would handle reviews from other schools on a case-by-case basis. The Illinois Fighting Illini, Utah Utes and North Dakota Fighting Sioux are among other prominent school nicknames that remain affected by the edict.
Under the NCAA restrictions, teams with American Indian nicknames would not be able to use them in postseason tournaments.
Not since '78 has such a travesty happened to the great state of Florida in regards to college football. Here are some of the headlines:
- "It's a landslide: Florida teams in the loss column"...Yahoo
- "Saturday was a dark day for football in the Sunshine State." ...ESPN
- "Florida, FSU, Miami share rare losing day."...TSN
As much as I despise some of the other programs in Florida, it is strictly a competitive thing. Actually I just hate UF, but that is another story. If I had it my way, Florida schools would only lose to other Florida schools...thus giving me bragging rights in California. I hate having USC, or any other Pac-10 team for that matter, ranked #1.
p.s. Florida International University also lost, it truly was an 0fer day.
Apparentely someone has decided to steal the FSU Football National Championship Trophies. In my opinion, it is likely a Gator or UM fan...you can't trust those types. Unfortunately for FSU, they do not have video surveillance where the trophies were, and they were not insured. You see, we at FSU are a trustworthy group, unlike the aforementioned groups. Anyways, in the words of Assistant Coach Rob Wilson, "Woe be unto that guy if the wrong people get hold of him.''
Yesterday Barbie and I headed over to Jerry's place to watch the Miami vs. Tennessee game, and I must admit I was completely torn as to who to pull for. Normally I'll pull for Miami as long as they are not playing FSU, but they are too close to FSU in the BCS so I need them to lose, but them losing hurts FSU strength of schedule...so what's a Seminole fan to do?? Well, UM ended up losing 10-6, on what was a close game, but at times not very exciting.
I decided not to stay up for the FSU game vs. Clemson as I figured it wouldn't be that close, and I was kind of happy in the fact that I would not have to listen to UM fans complain about how FSU was ranked higher than they were even though they each had one loss and UM beat FSU. Well, this morning comes and I am not really in the mood to check the FSU score. I've got that bad feeling, and sure enough my intuition was correct since FSU got basically smoked by Clemson 26-10...with FSU's only TD coming with 2+ minutes left in the game and the backup QB Fabian Walker at the helm. Now, not only is FSU out of the national championship race, but now I have still have to listed to whining UM fans when we visit Miami.
Trewin (crazy guy smiling) and I went to the FSU vs. Stanford baseball game this afternoon and what a treat it was. First of all, we were supposed to get free tickets through my cousin Torri who knew one of the players, but that fell through because the player gave the tickets to his parents...DOH! So I got in line to buy the general admission seats, and a guy comes over and hands me two free tickets to the RESERVED section...which means we were guaranteed seats instead of a spot on the lawn. When I get into the stadium, I am shocked to find out they are quite possibly the two best seats in the house...first row (which field level at Stanford), slightly off to the side behind homeplate so that we don't have the protective netting in front of us. These seats were primo, and I'll have pictures from our seats available shortly.
Anyways, the game did not disappoint either since FSU ended up getting the win after 12 long innings, which included multiple lead changes, 3 homeruns, 18 runs scored, a 9th inning 3-run comeback by the Noles to send it into extra innings, and a crazy call by the first base umpire in the bottom of the 12th to end the game. I won't go into all the details since you can read it from Drew Hankin who writes about FSU baseball for SectionB.com. His article is posted in the extended text of this entry. Anyways, the game was great and it is always a good feeling walking out of visitors stadium wearing your school colors knowing they can't talk trash since they just lost.
FSU 000 032 003 002 10 12 2
Stanford 100 124 000 000 8 16 2
W - Hodges (1-0) L - O'Hagen (0-1)
Twelve innings later, Noles take the series
by Drew Hankin
Another game, another extra inning barn-burner against the Stanford Cardinal. Florida State used practically every available player in a 10-8 twelve inning win over Stanford to take the series two games to three in Palo Alto, California. Daniel Hodges (1-0) picked up the win, going the final 4.0 innings without giving up a run. In all, the Seminoles used seven pitchers while the Cardinal used six.
For the first time all weekend, Stanford took an early lead in the bottom of the first inning when Sam Fuld drew a walk from Seminole starter Mark Sauls, moved to second on a passed ball by Aaron Cheesman, and to third on a sacrifice fly before scoring on a single by Carlos Quintin to put the Cardinal ahead 1-0. Stanford made it 2-0 in the bottom of the fourth inning when Danny Putnam singled and eventually scored on a basehit by Tobin Swope.
After four scoreless innings, FSU finally got the bats going in the top of the fifth frame when birthday-boy, Tony Richie led off with a single to left. Jerrod Brown then singled to right before Eddie Martinez-Esteve walked to load the bases with no outs. A Cheesman single up the middle score both Richie and Brown before Matt Sauls singled through the left side to bring home Martinez-Esteve and gave the Noles a 3-2 lead. Stanford got it right back in the bottom of the inning when Hall reached on an infield single and advanced to third when Quintin singled to left. Ryan Garko then dumped another single over third base that scored Hall and tied the game. After Trent Peterson relieved Sauls, John Mayberry, Jr reached on a throwing error by Martinez-Esteve that allowed Quintin to score an unearned run that gave the Cardinal a 4-3 lead.
Florida State answered back in the fifth when Richie singled to center and advanced to second on another single by Brown. Martinez-Esteve then atoned for his error with a single down the rightfield line that scored Richie. After a pitching change, Cheesman knocked in his third run of the game with a single to right that brought home Martinez-Esteve to make it a 5-4 game in favor of the Noles. The lead did not last however, as Swope led of the bottom of the inning with a single up the middle and took second on a wild pitch. After Peterson hit Fuld, he was lifted in favor of Kevin Lynch who promptly beaned Hall to load the bases. A sacrifice fly by Quintin scored Swope before Garko crushed a three-run homerun to left that put the Cardinal ahead 8-5. Daniel Davidson was then brought in to pitch and got the final out of the inning.
The Seminoles had a good opportunity to score in the eighth inning when Brown reached on an error and Martinez-Esteve walked with only one out. Stephen Drew, still ailing from a stomach bug of some sort, pinch-hit for Cheesman but flew out to right before Chris Hart hit into a fielder's choice to end the threat.
In the next inning, Kevin Richmond led off and reached on an error before moving to second on a passed ball. Bryan Zech then walked before Tony McQuade tied the game at 10-10 a three-run homer to left. Garko led off the bottom of the inning for Stanford with an infield single off of Rhett James but Hodges was then brought in to pitch, and got the Cardinal in order to send the game into extra innings for the second time of the series.
In the tenth, the Seminoles went down in order, but Stanford had Hodges on the ropes in the bottom of the inning with the bases loaded and only one out. Hog calmly got Quintin to line out to center and Donny Lucy to ground out to second base.
After a scoreless eleventh inning, Florida State finally broke through when Richie homered to left to give the Noles the lead. Jerrod Brown followed that up with a double and scored on a single up the middle by Danny Wardell that gave FSU a 10-8 lead. Swope struck out for the first out of Stanford's half of the twelfth inning but Jed Lowrie hit a double over McQuade's head in center to put the tying run at the plate. Fuld reached on an error by Zech at short that brought up the winning run at the plate. Hall reached on a fielder's choice that got Fuld out at second and put runners on the corners with two outs. Richie then caught Hall off of first base causing a rundown between first and second. With the runner on third breaking for home, Hall ran into Brown which caused him to drop the ball, but the umpire ruled Hall had interfered and called him out to end the game in wild fashion.
With the victory, the Seminoles improved to 5-1 on the season while Stanford fell to 3-5. FSU has a much needed week off to recovery from the flu and injuries before hosting Evansville for a three-game series next weekend at Howser Stadium.
Section B Online Player of the Game:
Daniel Hodges (4 ip, 4 H, 0 R, 1 BB)
Tony Richie (3-6, 1 R, 3 RBI, 2 runners caught stealing)
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Drew L. Hankin
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What the heck is going on in Tallahassee??
First Adrian Mcpherson is busted on a felony charge, but that was OK because Rix came in and beat UF. Now Rix decides to miss a final exam, and thanks to the "Deion Clause" which states that all players must take, not necessarily pass, all final exams to be eligible to play in bowl games. Rix states there was personal reasons why he didn't take the exam, so now FSU is going to start Fabian Walker! Here is the article on Rix: http://floridastate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=152067
Now to top things off, Leon Washington, the star backup RB that came into the UF game and played exceptional, is also possibly not eligible. Although, they are saying he may be able to take a makeup exam. I don't know why he can take a makeup exam and Rix can't...the details of these events are just coming around.
Anyways, after all of this, I have to deal with a bunch of cry-baby Hurricane fans complaining about Dorsey not winning the Heisman. Listen kids, it's not a career award, it's a season award. Yes, winning games is the most important thing overall, but this is an individual award. The Sears Awards, aka. National Champions trophy, is what the best team gets. Just deal with it. Well there is an article on NYTIMES.com about how Dorsey supposedly got robbed of the Heisman. Use the "More" link to view the article.
December 17, 2002
By JOE DRAPE
Ken Dorsey was overexposed and underappreciative about it,
and Heisman Trophy voters made him pay. How else do you
explain going from a preseason front-runner to a
well-beaten fifth in the race for college football's most
prestigious award, despite leading the Miami Hurricanes to
a perfect season, a berth in the Fiesta Bowl and a chance
to defend a national championship, as well as running his
record as a starter to 38-1?
This is no knock on Carson Palmer, the Southern California
quarterback who captured the Heisman Trophy over the
weekend. He put up fine numbers, led the Trojans to a 10-2
record against the nation's toughest schedule and shined
late in the season when the spotlight finally found him.
This is also not intended to discount the superb seasons
turned in by Iowa quarterback Brad Banks, the Heisman
runner-up, and the other leading contenders, Penn State
running back Larry Johnson (who finished third) and running
back Willis McGahee, a teammate of Dorsey's, who was
But the Heisman returns are troubling; Dorsey finished 685
points behind Palmer and finished no better than third in
any of the six voting regions.
Conversations with more than a dozen voters in the last two
weeks made it clear that forces that had little to do with
Dorsey's performance on the field routed his chances of
winning. It definitely was not as simple as Dorsey's
splitting the vote with McGahee.
The two most frequently offered rationales for voting
against Dorsey were: the Heisman is not a career award, and
his statistics were not Heisman-like.
The first allowed voters to discount Dorsey's remarkable
penchant for winning; the second is just not true. Even
fitted with blinders for the 2002 season, Palmer does not
crush Dorsey on the stats page. Palmer completed 62.9
percent of his passes for 3,639 yards and 32 touchdowns
against 10 interceptions; Dorsey completed 55.4 percent of
his passes for 3,073 yards and 26 touchdowns against 10
Parse the numbers more and you find that Palmer threw 108
more passes and was the hub around which a pass-happy
offense turned. It meant more yardage and more touchdowns,
but this gap is erased when you move to the won-lost
column. Despite Palmer's play, U.S.C. could not avoid two
losses, while the Hurricanes, under Dorsey's steadiness,
returned to the title game.
No, what happened to Dorsey was a good old-fashioned
He was too familiar to voters after three years of guiding
Miami to a 34-game winning streak, and he was penalized for
being surrounded by extraordinary talent: McGahee,
receivers Andre Johnson and Kellen Winslow Jr. and an
offensive line that N.F.L. teams are hungrily ready to
All season, voters wanted a fresh face, so Byron Leftwich,
Seneca Wallace, Maurice Clarett, Charles Rogers, Kliff
Kingsbury, et al., were granted star turns. The Heisman was
theirs to take; they couldn't do it.
As one pretender after another disappeared, the news media
started picking apart Miami and Dorsey for not being
flawless week in and week out. The standard for Dorsey kept
being raised, despite his closing flourish: 422 passing
yards against West Virginia, 345 against Syracuse, 300 on
Virginia Tech. Everyone else's standard kept being lowered.
Unfortunately, Dorsey met this contempt head-on with his
own contempt for the Heisman process. He said he was not
going to apologize for something he had not done wrong, and
told the voters to take their Heisman and, well, give it to
They did - to the freshest face out there.
the Trojans were 6-6 and Palmer was considered to be an
underachiever: in three-plus seasons, he had thrown as many
touchdown passes as interceptions - 39. He was the furthest
thing from a Heisman candidate, a designation that looked
correct when U.S.C. started the season with a 3-2 record.
But then came a seven-game winning streak, a top-five
ranking and an Orange Bowl invitation, largely because
Palmer was explosive down the stretch. He threw for 348
yards against Washington and 448 against Oregon, then lit
up Notre Dame on national television for 425 yards, the
most the Irish had given up in team history.
Great stuff, for sure. In the end, it was Heisman
Trophy-winning stuff - nicer still because the West Coast
had not punched through with a winner since the Trojans'
Marcus Allen in 1981.
But wow! - that's how dumbfounded I am. You're telling me
that Dorsey's 38-1 record is irrelevant, that his
3,000-plus passing yards this season do not count as much
as Palmer's because he is on a more talented team? That
back-to-back perfect regular seasons ending in the title
game makes you only the fifth-best player in college
I know there are a lot of people out there who have not
grown tired of Ken Dorsey's leading Miami to victory week
after week. I know many of them were impressed when Dorsey
stayed true to his convictions, maintained a humble and
courteous nature and told his critics to quit running him
But I guess not enough of them had Heisman Trophy votes,
which is truly a shame.
FSU didn't look too impressive last night. Not only did they have to come back against Clemson, but the way they were scoring was not good. FSU relied on botched Clemson punt, a 97 yard kickoff return, a "should never happen" run by Greg Jones with less than 30 seconds left in the first half, and two fumbles in the second half by Clemson. All of these led to points by the Noles because it happened deep in Clemson territory. The offense just never seem to kick it into gear. Gregg Jones is a phenom, as is Anquan Boldin...but we just can't seem to get them and the QB going at the same time. Gregg Jones did have one of the toughest and most unbelievables runs I have seen in a long time...college or NFL. He scored on a 21 yard run after breaking about 6-7 tackles...none of which were little arm tackles. He then proceeded to mow down the last two guys for the score and the back breaker for Clemson. The bright spot for the Noles was that they were able to run out the clock at the end of the game and not give Clemson another shot at it. Plus FSU's defense was finally able to slow down Simmons (Clemson's QB). They now have 9 days of rest before heading to the Orange Bowl to play Miami...gulp.
The demons of Thursday night football struck the Noles last week...let's just hope lightning doesn't strike two weeks in a row. FSU is favored by 14 points going into Bowden Bowl 4...so aptly named because the Clemson coach is Tommy Bowden...Bobby's son. Of course I have done the analysis on this game...so here it is (courtesy of FreeMoneyBets.com).
Clemson at FSU (FSU –14)
My only wrong pick last week (3-1) was the Noles, who struggled in Louisville due in large part to poor offensive play calling, a struggling 2nd half defense and pouring down rain. Not only did they not cover the 15 point spread, but they lost the game. Clemson has had two weeks rest to prepare for this game, but they’ve probably been preparing since their win over Ga. Tech 3 weeks ago since Ball St. doesn’t take much preparation. Plus you have the factor that Tommy knows his dad pretty well, so that is extra incentive to pick Clemson. And Clemson is 3-1 against the spread this year, and the Noles are only 1-4. However, there is a big difference between this Thursday night game and last weeks for the Noles. 1) It is at Doak Campbell 2) No rain in the forecast 3) They realize they are not the Seminoles of the past and must play every down in order to win. Add all these up and I think FSU should be able to cover the 14 point spread. The spread opened up at 15, but is down to 14…so there are a lot of people going the other way on this one, but one thing about college football is emotion plays a huge factor in results, and Bobby probably got on them this week especially since his son is the opposing coach. This should be a high scoring affair either way.
Take FSU –14 for the Bowden Bowl **
Just got this picture from Jonathan. It shows the view from our seats for the FSU vs. Miami game on Oct. 12th. FSU has been removed from the ranks of the "Undefeated", and is currently ranked 11th in both polls. Hopefully, they will have the "nothing to lose" attitude when playing the Canes in the Orange Bowl, and can pull off a historic upset. I'm not saying it is going to happen, but if IOWA can beat Penn St. and the Baltimore Ravens, which had scored a total of 7 points in there first two games, can put up 34 points against Denver...then anything is possible.
FSU lost 26-20 against Louisville in what was one of the more frustrating games to watch as Noles fan. The rain just poured all night long, rendering our offensive passing game useless. We're supposed to have a running game to make up for that, but Gregg Jones couldn't do anything, and the coaching staff didn't give Maddox the ball enough. Special Teams was a real killer, although it could have been much worse if our defense hadn't stopped them twice from scoring TD's...once from a 1st and goal from the 2 yard line. Basically the Noles looked like they were playing not to lose, and Louisville figured our defense in the 2nd half and exploited it. Rough night, and our season is going to get any easier with Miami, Notre Dame and Florida still to play. It could be another 4 loss season for the once dominant Seminoles.
The picture on the left pretty much shows everything about last nights game. Frustration, Defeat and the terrential downpour of rain that didn't stop all night. It was like a bad dream.
Well the Seminoles are in Louisville tonight playing a one time Heisman hopeful, David Ragone. Unfortunately for the Cardinals, he's got no shot of winning that illustrious trophy due to their 2-2 start this season. FSU, favored by 15 points, should be able to win by 20+. Heck, I've even got money on the game [but don't tell my mom or Barbie ]. Here is my two cents about tonights game from Free Money Bets.
FSU @ Louisville (FSU -15)
Louisville is upset at being 2-2 going into this game. They were hoping to be 4-0, ranked in the top 25, and have a chance to beat the Noles. Too freaking bad! They are 2-2, with losses to Kentucky and Colorado St. Their only wins have come against Duke and Army. Louisville is thinking upset, but I'm thinking blowout. Ragone's offensive line is suspect, allowing 10 sacks already. The only bright spot for the Cardinals is their defense, which returned 10 starters. Look for the game to be somewhat close in the beginning, with Noles pulling away late due to their depth and just flat out better athletes.
Take FSU -15 **** (* is rated from 1-5, with 5 being high)
Did UM look good or what? They absolutely destroyed Grossman and Gators 41-16! Unfortunately, the Seminoles have to play the Canes on Oct. 12th. I'm assuming both teams will come in undefeated, but I'm not sure the Noles will leave undefeated. The Hurricanes looked impressive on both sides of the ball, and that was at UF...aka. The Swamp. I can't imagine how good they are going to be in the Orange Bowl. All that said, the Seminoles do have a shot at beating the Canes...but they are going to have to learn how to play both the 1st half and the 2nd half. If they can learn to play the entire game as well as they have played the first half of their 2 games...then I'm calling for an upset right here and now!! That's right..put your money on the Noles if they start putting up big numbers within the next few games. The best thing about Oct. 12th is that I will be there!! It's been 3 years since we last beat the Canes, and this year won't be an easy one to snap the 2-game losing streak, but I've got confidence in our boys ... Go Noles!
Jordan sent me a great link today that shows some idiot Gator writer talking about how the Canes supremacy will eventually be passed by the Gators. He predicted this 5 years ago when the Canes were on probation...I wonder what his predictions are now. Check out the article for yourself.
Finally...be sure to check out all the latest photos that Barbie has been constantly updating.
OK...the Seminoles are 2-0, but let's just say that is only because of their first half performances. They have put up 24+ point leads on both IOWA St. and Virginia, only to find themselves almost losing to Iowa St. and then not covering the spread against UVA. Yes...I put money on the game and got burned because of a last minute fumble that gave UVA an oppurtunity to go down and score a TD. Well they are 2-0...and since the BCS doesn't take into consideration "margin of victory", I couldn't be happier. We have a lot more balanced offense this year...which is great...but we don't get those 40+ yard plays anymore. It'll all come together as time goes on.
As for this weekend...it's UM vs. UF!! A renewal of a rivalry that has been in hibernation for about a decade. This is the first of 3 games between the powerhouse football teams from the State of Florida. FSU, UM and UF are all playing for State bragging rights and a trophy which is awarded to the winner. If all teams go 1-1, then the winner is determined by who gave up the fewest amount of points. Isn't football great!